gentleman, is the race, doug, basically tied? >>doug: i believe so. but there is a "but." that is that the movement has been to governor romney. some of the more left-wing commentators have tried to suggest that there was a blip up for president obama after the debate. according to some of the polls, he won that. but, looking at all the polls, including the state polls, we are seeing the movement to the governor is clear. >>gregg: i am glad you brought up gallup and rasmussen. here is rasmussen, with romney up by to points and look at gallup tracking poll, pat, romney is up, as of 1:00 o'clock this afternoon, romney is up plus seven points. is that gallup poll accurate? or an outliar? >> i think it is an outliar because i have a problem with the seven-day seven day rollings because you are putting in 350 interviews which is margin of error at 15 points and each day you take one out. however, obama is -- i take gallup and rasmussen and i divide by two and i might do more than that. rasmussen shows romney up in the swing states by four points. if you look at the race, it is